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Default IE8 Beta 1 Blocks Access to Windows Update, Posted March 10th, 2008, 01:31 AM #1 (permalink) |


This had to be the funniest thing to happen today for Microsoft. The newly released IE8 Beta 1 blocks access to Windows Update if you prefer to run it from the browser. If you visit the Windows Update site from IE8 this is what you get..
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Thank you for your interest in obtaining updates from our site.

To use this site, you must be running Microsoft Internet Explorer 5 or later.
To upgrade to the latest version of the browser, go to the Internet Explorer Downloads website.
If you prefer to use a different web browser, you can obtain updates from the Microsoft Download Center or you can stay up to date with the latest critical and security updates by using Automatic Updates. To turn on Automatic Updates:
  1. Click Start, click Control Panel, and then click Security.
  2. Click Security Center, and then make sure Automatic updating is turned on.
To enhance the security and performance of your computer, make sure Windows automatic updating is not turned off.

I was kinda shocked to see that message, but again IE8 is in beta and errors like this are bound to happen. Well at the moment the solution is to emulate IE7 Mode and access Windows Update. Meanwhile Microsoft is updating the Windows Update Site to support IE8.
For curiosity sake I checked the HTTP User Agents of both IE7 and IE8 and here’s what I got :
IE7 : Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506; InfoPath.2; Zune 2.0)
IE8 : Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506; InfoPath.2; Zune 2.0)
Pratically there’s no difference in the User Agent Strings other than the browser version. Come on Microsoft do you need so much time to just add one User Agent Check on Windows Update site. Seems silly to me…
Angel

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Default Posted March 10th, 2008, 07:03 PM #2 (permalink) |
Check your fact first, Internet Explorer 8 beta 1 was released as a developer preview ONLY and wasn't really meant for general consumption. Also Its just the first BETA version of a product. What do you want ? the whole internet will switch to IE8 standard overnight ? even Microsoft's own Hotmail don't work with IE8 correctly, thats why they gave a built-in options in IE8 to emulate IE7.

Why don't you post the positive news about IE8 that 'IE8 is made as w3c standard which all web developer want (including me)' rather then posting funny thing which don't educate end users.

why don't post this link Internet Explorer 8 Readiness Toolkit and let the ppls know what IE8 will bring to them ? and how web developers will implement this features into their websites.

(I'm looking to implement those features in this forum for IE8 aswell)

for more info: IEBlog
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Computerworld's Gregg Keizer recently reported that IE8 beta 1 users were experiencing problems loading various web sites, including Microsoft sites such as Windows Live Hotmail and Windows Update. The article seems to largely lay the blame on the fact that this is a beta, but that isn't the whole story here. The "why?" question is worth exploring a bit more thoroughly.

IE8 is aimed primarily at developers. This is why Microsoft announced that IE8 would be available to the public, in addition to its selected beta testers. IE8 has a mode that passes the Acid2 test, and in response to general public outcry, Microsoft scrapped its previous statement and decided to make this mode the default, leading web developers everywhere to rejoice. However, this move will mean a huge amount of short term problems in exchange for an improvement in the state of the Internet in the long term. One day, IE8 will be more popular than IE7 and IE6 and, at that point, many web sites will have a lot less to worry about thanks to IE8's significantly improved (although obviously not perfect—Acid3 anyone?), standards compliance.

Users who have installed IE8 beta 1 have undoubtedly realized that clicking the "Emulate IE7" button allows them to use IE8 without any problems, as the Computerworld article notes. If they do not, many web sites just flat out break. Why is this? Many web sites have been coded based on the knowledge that IE6 and IE7 do not follow many of the web standards tested in Acid2. The HTML that works nicely in IE7 breaks down in a browser that tries to follow standards, such as IE8. To avoid this, web developers can make sure that IE8 renders the website in the IE7 mode by adding the following code to their pages:

&ltmeta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=7" />

This allows IE8 users to browse the web site without having to click on the "Emulate IE7" button. The reason many developers have not done this yet is simple: IE8 beta 1 has been out for less than a week, and there really is no rush to start supporting a beta. Most developers will likely add this piece of code over the next few weeks, especially if they are supporting tech sites. Chances are that they will also wait until the last beta before changing any additional code to make their site truly IE8 compatible. IE8 is bound to change over the next few beta releases, so there is simply no reason to start changing code to start supporting it right now. Microsoft is also doing its part in making its web sites work with IE8, but those who expected that everything would be done by IE8 beta 1 were really kidding themselves (especially when taking into considering that the software giant was never planning to make the standards compliant mode the default one).

Complaints about web sites not rendering correctly in IE8 will be heard loudly over the next few months, including long after the final build of IE8 is released—even when Microsoft finally decides to push IE8 through Windows Update, there will still be countless that will have not gotten around to changing their code. Expect many to jump on the IE8-bashing bandwagon, but, although this "ongoing problem" is Microsoft's fault, it was done on purpose and with good intentions.

Dear Computerworld, there's a reason why IE8 breaks the web
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Default Posted March 13th, 2008, 02:43 PM #5 (permalink) |
Dear EROS Vaia,
I already told, "I was kinda shocked to see that message, but again IE8 is in beta and errors like this are bound to happen".

And I don't think, I always need to post informative thread here. You will get my many threads here in doshomik those are really informative (may be, not for u). What I posted here that is really funny (you already agreed). And that's the only reason, I posted it.

And thanx for your comments and suggestions.
Angel

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Angel, you didn't post this because it was funny, did you?
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Angel, you didn't post this because it was funny, did you?
Yes. Here, that's the reason. Because, I already opened another thread about ie8 ( Internet Explorer 8 Beta 1 ). + I wanted to notify you all, about this.
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