Star is found to be 13.2 billion years old

**tamchow** · September 6th, 2007, 10:24 PM

blood bro just to let u knw... big bang exists in islam tooo....n science comes from islam...

BLooD · September 9th, 2007, 06:02 PM

Allah Says in the Holy Quran Chapter 35 Surah Fatir verses 1-7:
1Praise be to Allah Who created (out of nothing) the heavens and the earth Who made the angels messengers with wings two or three or four (Pairs): He adds to Creation as He pleases: for Allah has power over all things.
2What Allah out of His Mercy doth bestow on mankind there is none can withhold: what He doth withhold there is none can grant apart from Him: and He is the Exalted in Power Full of Wisdom.
3O men! Call to mind the grace of Allah unto you! Is there a Creator other than Allah to give you Sustenance from heaven or earth? There is no god but He: how then are ye deluded away from the Truth?
4 And if they reject thee, so were Messengers rejected before thee: to Allah go back for decision all affairs.
5 O men! Certainly the promise of Allah is true. Let not then this present life deceive you nor let the Chief Deceiver (Shaytaan) deceive you about Allah.
6 Verily Shaytaan is an enemy to you: so treat him as an enemy. He only invites his adherents that they may become Companions of the Blazing Fire.
7 For those who reject Allah is a terrible Penalty: but for those who believe and work righteous deeds is Forgiveness and a magnificent Reward.

There are a few assumptions and connotations in your above questions, which we would like to address and clarify before we go into the specifics of the questions asked.
The Creation of the Universe of Allah Subhanah is separate and distinct from the creation of man and subsequently the human race.
One should differentiate between what is 'scientific fact' and what is 'theory'. A 'scientific fact' is a factual study or discovery which confirms the laws of nature created by Allah Subhanah, and thus a 'scientific fact' cannot be altered or changed in the least. A 'theory' on the other hand is an opinion of man based on some assumptions and thus not a 'scientific fact'!
The Quran is in absolute, and I repeat, in Absolute conformity with 'scientific facts'; for the same Creator who created nature revealed the Glorious Quran! No Aayah of the Glorious Quran will one find which goes against a 'scientific fact'.
A 'theory' on the other hand is based on some assumptions of man, and they may or may not be in alignment with the facts of the guidance of the Holy Quran. To relate a simple example: That every living thing is created from water is a 'scientific fact' and in absolute conformity with the Quran; but to state 'Darwin's theory' where man originated from apes is based on some (albeit absolutely false) assumptions of Dr. Charles Darwin, and thus cannot be treated as a 'scientific fact'!
And finally, the ones who do not believe in the Glorious Quran can wait for science to confirm the laws of nature which were revealed by Allah Subhanah almost 1400 years ago in the Quran!; but for the believers every word of Allah Subhanah is a guaranteed fact, for the Lord Who Created everything in existence is the Same Lord Who revealed the Glorious Quran!

The disbelievers in the Quran can wait for the 'Big Bang' theory to be determined a 'scientific fact'; but for the believers the so-called 'Big Bang' theory is very close indeed to what has been already Declared by the Creator in the Quran almost 1400 years ago as the start of creation!

Similarly, science has today indeed confirmed as a 'scientific fact' that every living thing was created from water, which was Declared by the Creator in His Glorious Quran!

Allah Says in the Holy Quran Chapter 21 Surah Anbiyaa verse 30: Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one mass) before We clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?

And as to the creation of man, the Creator Declares that man was indeed created from a single person, Hadrat Adam (a.s.).

Allah Says in the Holy Quran Chapter 4 Surah Nisaa verse 1: O mankind! Reverence your Guardian-Lord Who created you from a single person created of like nature his mate and from them twain scattered (like seeds) countless men and women; reverence Allah through Whom ye demand your mutual (rights) and (reverence) the wombs (that bore you): for Allah ever watches over you.

The Quran declares that the Universe originated from the fact that the heavens and the earth was created as 'one mass' and then the Lord clove or split them asunder (Big-Bang) and the Universe as we know it came into existence. The Quran does not state that life originated in the sea, but rather that every living thing was created from water; and that is a 'scientific fact' proven by science.

But if some man thinks that life 'originated' in the seas, then that is his man-made 'theory' based on some assumptions; and not a 'scientific fact'.

What can be said with certainty, is what Allah Subhanah Declares and science confirms that every living being was made from water. Since animals are living beings, it can be said with certainty that the animate kingdom too was made from water like all living things.

To say that all animals originated from the sea would not be a factual statement; either from the Quran or according to the known 'scientific facts'. What can be said with certainty is that Allah Subhanah created all animals, whether they be animals of the seas, or animals of the lands, or animals that live on both sea and land.

if one realizes and learns to differentiate 'scientific facts' from 'theories' there will be no confusion.

It is indeed unfortunate that those who disbelieve in the One Creator, propagate their 'theories' based on some man-made assumptions (albeit false!) and try to portray them as 'scientific facts'; when they themselves know and have today been proven by science to be absolutely baseless and false. And the only reason these people enforce their false 'theories' of the creation of man, is that in the absence of their 'false' theories, they would be forced to admit either their ignorance, or face the fact that there is but One Creator of everything in existence; which these disbelievers, in-spite of the overwhelming evidence, simply refuse to believe!
The disbelievers have chosen to live in the darkness of confusion and falsehoods and ignorance; whereas Allah Subhanah has guided the believers to the light of Certainty, and Truth, and Knowledge.

Praise be to Allah Subhanah Alone, the One and Only Creator and Sustainer of the heavens and the earth and everything that exists in between.

Allah Says in the Holy Quran Chapter 64 Surah Taghabun verses 1-2:
1Whatever is in the heavens and on earth doth declare the Praises and Glory of Allah: to Him belongs Dominion and to Him belongs Praise: and He has power over all things.
2It is He Who has created you; and of you are some that are Unbelievers and some that are Believers: and Allah sees well all that ye do.

Allah Says in the Holy Quran Chapter 34 Surah Saba Verses 1-2:
1Praise be to Allah to Whom belong all things in the heavens and on earth: to Him be Praise in the Hereafter: and He is Full of Wisdom acquainted with all things.
2He knows all that goes into the earth and all that comes out thereof; all that comes down from the sky and all that ascends thereto: and He is the Most Merciful the Oft-Forgiving.

Allah Says in the Holy Quran Chapter 45 Surah Jathiya verses 36-37:
36Then Praise be to Allah Lord of the heavens and Lord of the earth Lord and Cherisher of all the worlds!
37To Him be Glory throughout the heavens and the earth: and He is Exalted in Power Full of Wisdom!

If one trusts, obeys, and follows the guidance and commands of Allah and His Messenger (saws), he can be assured of never ever being misled; but if one believes, obeys and follows any other guidance, other than that of Allah and His Messenger (saws), he can be assured of being led astray.

Thank you ..

NOTE : ( Collected from different Resources over net )

**tamchow** · September 9th, 2007, 06:14 PM

The disbelievers in the Quran can wait for the 'Big Bang' theory to be determined a 'scientific fact'; but for the believers the so-called 'Big Bang' theory is very close indeed to what has been already Declared by the Creator in the Quran almost 1400 years ago as the start of creation!

ye so yes to talk to kafirs.. n givin dem dawat into islam.. u usue similar language as dem... n den u go into da details...
dats da way of teaching init... dats wat dey do at school to college n to uni....

BLooD · September 9th, 2007, 06:46 PM

tamchow , now in these days , there are a group of scientists who are just studying quran to get informations. we also read this darwin theorys on skools , but ! all of them just just create this theorys from their mind :] .. tell me one thing , who created our mind ;D ? Allah .. so whom you'll support , those scientist's mind or the holy Quran ?

Ah we also study the same thing as you done, but after some times we found out the truth ! Allah has give the abilities to the humans to get informations and stuffs, etc etc. And ye , we are doing our jobs as getting the informations.

Ok as i asked you before , just its a common scence , tell me , if this big bang happened long time ago , about 13.2 billion years ago , how could be the shape of all the planets are circle / round ?? and on my school i asked the same question to my sir , and he slapped me with a scale says " UPOL ! u talk too much ! just shut up and and study this " .. i was like "ok sir :/ !" ..

**tamchow** · September 9th, 2007, 06:52 PM

uuhuuu blood... i only just repeated wat ur quote sed.... innit....they ave just given it da bing bang name... but wat happened is da same init...

**ReeV** · September 10th, 2007, 05:32 PM

Religious ppls smyles and laugh and try to show this to everyone wheneva Science says indirectly anythin which relates wit there Religious Belief.
Those same persons curse Science and Scientist wheneva they say smethin which goes Against There Religious Belief. LoL.

How Am I gonna benefited by this Star ?! I don think there is any. So don really care if the star can do anythin or not.

noble · September 10th, 2007, 05:59 PM

Matha Ghuraitese.

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