Qadyanis

Asmani · September 3rd, 2007, 10:41 PM

who are Qadyanis?
Discuss anything/everything you know about them.

**TiTaKoRoLLa** · September 5th, 2007, 12:16 AM

all i've ever heard of them is some former paki friends of mine whispering their names under their breaths like it's a swear word.
who are they? i think one of them told me they do not fall under islam/muslim. but other than that, i hv no clue. i would like to kno though

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Qadyani is the place where Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was born.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was a Muslim who claimed to have fulfilled Christian and Islamic prophecies of being the second advent of Christ as well as the Imam Mahdi and Mujaddid of the 14th Islamic century.

The Ahmadi version of Islam has been controversial to mainstream Muslims since its birth. Muslims have not accepted Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's claims and do not consider Ahmadis to be Muslims at all by Sunni or Shia Muslims.

In some countries it is an offence for the Ahmadiyya Movement to preach their religion as Islam. In Pakistan, parliament has declared Ahmadis to be non-Muslims.

WHAT IS QADIANISM?

By

Maulana Muhammad Saleem Dohrat
QADIYANISAM.....

....dishounours ALLAH (SWT), the creator

Where can the human escape from that being in whose hands is every atom. He says: I will come seceretly like theives.

(Roohani Khazaa'in Page 39, Vol. 20)
..claims divinity for Mirza Ghulam Ahmad.

I (Mirza) saw in a dream that I am God. I have belived that I am God.
(Rohanni Khazaa'in Page 564, Vol 5)
...teaches that the door of prophethood is open, even after the final prophet Muhammad (SAW)

This fact is established like the day that the door of prophethood is open after prophet Muhammad (S A W)
(Haqeeqatun Nubuwah Page 228)
...debases the greatest of all Prophets, Muhammad (SAW)

Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and his sahabah (RAA) used to eat cheese made by the christians, although it was well known that pig's fat was used in its making.
(Al Fadhal, Qadiyaan 22nd Febuary1924)

..claims that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is Muhammad! the messenger of Allah (SWT).

..Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelivers and merciful amoungst themselves. In this divine revelation, I have been named Muhammad and also Rasool.
(Roohani Khazain Page 207, Vol 18)

One who differentiated between me and the Mustupha has neither seen me or recognised me.
(Roohani Khazain Page 258-259 Vol 16)

... Teaches that Mirza Ghulam Ahmed is superior to Prophet Muhammad (SAW)

..Muhammad has decended among us once again and he is more greater in status than ever before. Whosoever wants to see Muhammad (SAW) should see Ghulam Ahmad in Qadian.
(Badr, Qadiyan 25th october 1906)

...propogates that Mirza is superior to all the Prophets
And Allah (SWT) is showing so many signs for me that if they were shown in the time of Noah, those people would not have drowned .
(Rohhani Khazain Page 575 Vol 22)

Yousuf of this UMMAH, i.e this humble one is greater than Israeli yousuf.
(Rohhani Khazain page 99 Vol 21)

Although many prophets have come into this world, I am no less in knowledge and recognition of ALLAH than any of them.
(Rohhani Khazain Page 240 Vol 18)

Leave the mention of Ibne Maryam (Easaa Alaihe sallam); Ghulam Ahmad is better than him.
(Rohhani Khazain Page 240 Vol 18)

...teaches hatred towards Hazrat Easaa Alayhis sallam, one of the greatest prophets of ALLAH

(Jesus) had the habit of uttering obscenities and frequently using foul language.
(Rohhani Khazain Page 289 Vol 11)

It should be remembered that he (Jesus) also had top some extent the habit of lying.
(Rohhani Khazain Page 289 Vol 11)

Jesus could not portray himself as a pious man because people know him as a gluttonus alcoholic.
(Rohhani Khazain Page 296 Vol 10)

QADIANIS DEBASE THE ISLAMIC KALIMAH

This article draws special attention of the reader to the fact that the Qadianis deem Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as a Prophet incarnate through reincarnation, ie rebirth of the holy Prophet of Islam in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's person. Thus they have rebelled against Islam and seceded from it. They have infactgiven the pretender a place higher than that of the holy Prophet (SAW).
The contents of this text are based on authenic Qadiani literature with references to the relevant book and page. We take full responsibility and do hereby declare that the sources are authentic and correct.

For more info:
http://www.geocities.com/thanabhavan/khatmenubuwat

world · September 5th, 2007, 01:05 AM

Yes, Masum is correct. thanks

goru · September 5th, 2007, 01:49 AM

very old and overused topic for debate

**ReeV** · September 5th, 2007, 04:28 AM

LoL Goru. I personally don lyk to debate anythin related wit Religion. But yeah, I gathered some knowledge outta there.
All I knew about Qadyani's was that they had this different style of Munazat and they follow a Leader who claims to be the latest nd final Edition of Sophism.

Well, As far as I know about Islam, I heard Almighty himself said that, before Judgment Day there wud a lot of Groups between the Muslims. So its no wonder that we already have 3 major Groups.

MoZaman · September 5th, 2007, 04:34 AM

They have their own TV channel Muslim Television Ahmadiyya International

**BoIRaGi** · 05:08 AM

this is their website...>>>>> www.alislam.org

Conditions of Initiation (Bai'at)
in
Ahmadiyya Muslim Community
By
Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian
The Promised Messiah and Mahdi (peace be upon him)

The initiate shall solemnly promise:
I That he/she shall abstain from Shirk (association of any partner with God) right up to the day of his/her death.

II That he/she shall keep away from falsehood, fornication, adultery, trespasses of the eye, debauchery, dissipation, cruelty, dishonesty, mischief and rebellion; and will not permit himself/herself to be carried away by passions, however strong they might be.

III That he/she shall regularly offer the five daily prayers in accordance with the commandments of God and the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him); and shall try his/her best to be regular in offering the Tahajud (pre-dawn supererogatory prayers) and invoking Darood (blessings) on the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him); that he/she shall make it his/her daily routine to ask forgiveness for his/her sins, to remember the bounties of God and to praise and glorify Him.

IV That under the impulse of any passions, he/she shall cause no harm whatsoever to the creatures of Allah in general, and Muslims in particular, neither by his/her tongue nor by his/her hands nor by any other means.

V That he/she shall remain faithful to God in all circumstances of life, in sorrow and happiness, adversity and prosperity, in felicity and trial; and shall in all conditions remain resigned to the decree of Allah and keep himself/herself ready to face all kinds of indignities and sufferings in His way and shall never turn away from it at the onslaught of any misfortune; on the contrary, he/she shall march forward.

VI That he/she shall refrain from following un-islamic customs and lustful inclinations, and shall completely submit himself/herself to the authority of the Holy Quran; and shall make the Word of God and the Sayings of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) the guiding principle in every walk of his/her life.

VII That he/she shall entirely give up pride and vanity and shall pass all his/her life in humbleness, cheerfulness, forbearance and meekness.

VIII That he/she shall hold faith, the honor of faith, and the cause of Islam dearer to him/her than his/her life, wealth, honor, children and all other dear ones.

IX That he/she shall keep himself/herself occupied in the service of God's creatures for His sake only; and shall endeavor to benefit mankind to the best of his/her God-given abilities and powers.

X That he/she shall enter into a bond of brotherhood with this humble servant of God, pledging obedience to me in everything good, for the sake of Allah, and remain faithful to it till the day of his/her death; that he/she shall exert such a high devotion in the observance of this bond as is not to be found in any other worldly relationship and connections demanding devoted dutifulness.

Source --->>> http://www.alislam.org/introduction/conditions.html

**tamchow** · September 7th, 2007, 12:34 AM

all i Know i dey do not beileve dat our beloved prophet Mohammad peace be upon him is da last prophet. n dey do not believe dat Isa pbuh will be back again...

Green Dido · September 7th, 2007, 01:05 PM

Qadyanis follows some twisted rules of Islam.

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