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Default Posted February 26th, 2008, 12:13 AM #11 (permalink) |
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হে ঠিক আছে, তুমি যে টা বলছ, আমার পোস্ট আজকে সেরকমই লাগছে যেমন লাগতেছে তোমার কাছে, তাই এডিট করছি। যাই হোক - আমি মিরপুর বাংলা স্কুলে যখন পড়ি আমার সাথে সিলেটি ছেলে মেয়ে পড়তো, যাদের সাথে আমি টিফিন থেকে শুরু করে সব কিছুই শেয়ার করতাম, আমি যখন গার্মেন্টস্ এ চাকরি করি আমার প্রোডাকশন ম্যানেজার ছিল সিলেটি, ২০০২ সালে যখন আমি AMK Group এ চাকরি করি তখন আমি সেখানে ছিলাম Commercial Manager, আর আমার GM ছিল সিলেটি এবং আমার পিয়ন ছিল সিলেটি, তাহলে আমি কোন অর্থেই বুঝতে পারতেছিনা এখানে তাদের অধিকার কোথায় হরন হচ্ছে আর কোথায় বা তারা নির্যতিত হচ্ছে যে কারনে তারা স্বাধীন হতে চায়।

এবার বুঝতে পারছ কেন বলছি , ভাবাই যায়না এমনটা হতে পারে - কারন যারা বর্তমানে বাংলাদেশে আছে আমার আশে পাশে শিক্ষিত বা অশিক্ষিত তাদের কাউকেই আমি দেখিনা কষ্টে আছে, আরে বলতে যেখানে প্রাক্তন অর্থমন্ত্রিও সিলেটি অধিকার হরনের প্রশ্নই আসেনা, পরের ধনে পোদ্দারি করে পরগাছা থেকে যদি কেউ ভাবে আমি আমার সিলেট স্বাধীন দেখতেছি তাহলে তর --------- (তর মাথায় ছিট আছে) বলবনা তো কি বলব?

I can't read anything apart from GM, Manager and AMK GROUP so sorry can't answer your question if you had one. I am hopeful that you will write again.
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sobar age boli je Jati ekta concept. Ek dol lok jakhan tader Language ar culture e alada haye jay, takhan i tara notun jati hoy. 47 er swadhinota paowar age independence er janyo sobai loechilo. kintu aj amader desheo alada alada jati ra nijeder swadhinota chaiche...setai swabhabik. Sub-altern ra eksomoy swadhinota chaibei..amader desher khub boro ekta rajnoitik dol (gerua jama pora), mone kore je sob bhashar sera holo hindi bhasa r sobai amra hindi. ami apnar post thik temon i ek chaya dekhlam.
apni bar bar Sylheti ke Banglar dialect bolechen..adou ki tai? langage ta related to bengali, kintu motei dialect of bengali na...alada horof ache, alada byakoron ache, ojosro puthi ache (books). Jokhon i apni ota ke banglar dialect bolchen tokhon i apni syslheti der mother tounge er ostitto niye proshno korchen...

r baki torko? tar kono obokash i nei...ami janio na Sylheti ra ki niye andolon korchen..ki tader jukti. apnader uchit segulo ke age ekhane list kora, then counter jukti r statistics dewa...
tabe eta to dekhchi je apnader anekei sylhetti der porgacha bhaben, porer dhon e poddari bhaben..sob deshe , sob jaygay sei ek facism er gandho
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Replying to Basu for now. Will come back again for the rest of it.



What do you understand by that word Jati Bunan? When we fought for independence and fought off the Pakistanis did Sylhet fight as individual territory? Was it sectored as a totally independent unit? We fought as a whole, we fought as a Bangladeshi coz thats what we are. Now after all these years why would there be talks whirling in the air about them becoming separate? Their own dialect is going to make them a different JATI?

Now coming to the second point, you are absolutely right. Even in here there was a general mosque in our area where every one went for prayers. Hotat kore ki holo? The sylheti group created another mosque for themselves! Under what basis do you find this to be right? In every other groups or committees or community stuff you find the sylheti's forming their own group. Why? Just coz you have a different dialect it makes you unique and different?

Hell, if you talk about dialect then us chatgaia's can form one own territory of our own as well, no? I can bet 10000 bucks that anyone who has not seen or been in Ctg, won't even understand a single word that we speak. I don't either since I grew up abroad and away from there, anyway!

Ya as I was saying there are a lot of dialects and diff ways people speak Bangla in our country, but that does not prove that I can form a state of my own based on that and my own area culture n all.

Masoom, the questiion is not that they CAN create a state if they want to, the question was SHOULD they do something like this?

Ronoh, I understand your question but then how can you ask that question. Did Sylheti people declare or come to parliament or anything that confirms that they really are looking forward to declare independence apart from few individual doing wrong things? I hope you do understand that all people you are referring to are small group and when you mention Sylhet, you refer to all the people living in that City.

If someone is not attending the same mosque and that for silly reasons (based on your explanations), then they are not even obeying Allah’s command for who they built another mosque, let alone thinking about Sylhet and Sylheti people.

You mention many district speak different dialect and they are not asking for independent state but before you say this you must prove officially, that Sylheti people do want an independent state? I also did not find very logical that we fought the war together and because of that Sylheti shouldn’t ask for an independent state, if this logic was to be considered as a genuine political reason then today India, Pakistan and Bangladesh should be one and not three countries. We want Bangladeshi people to live as one because we are one and that with no reason, no condition and no differences regardless of acceptable cultural differences.
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Bashubunan hello tomar uchit amar ager post pore bhalo moto bujhe post deya, khub beshi offensive bole felteso, porgacha bolte ami kokhonoi amar desher bhetor boshobash kari der bujhaini, jara desher baire theke ei dhoroner kotha bole, ami taderkei bolsi, so you should be aware what are you posting, those words are very much offensive I think.

Mod and admin should take care of this thread. PLs
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I would request the admin to close this thread.

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ha thik ase, tumi jeta bolso, amar post ajke shey rokomi lagsey jemon lagtesey tomer kase, tai edit korsi. jai hok - ami mirpur bangla school e jokhon pori amar shathe sylheti chele meye porto, jader shathe ami tiffin theke shuru kore shob kisui share kortam, ami jokhon garments te chakri kori, amar Production manager chilo sylheti, 2002 shale jokhon ami AMK Group a chakri kori tokhon ami chilam Commercial Manager, ar amar GM chilo sylheti and amar peon chilo sylheti, tahole ami kono orthei bujhte partesina ekhane tader odhikar kothai horon hochse? ar kothai ba tara nirjatit hochse, je tara shadhin hote chai?

Ebar bujhte parso keno bolsi, bhabai jai na emonta hote pare - karon jara bortomane bd te ase amar ashe pashe shikkhito ba ordho shikkhito ba oshikkhito tader kaukei ami dekhina koste ase, arey bolte gele jekhane former finance ministar Sylheti odhikar horon proshnoi ashey na. Porerdhone poddari kore porgacha theke jodi keu bhabe ami sylhet shadhin dekhtesi tahole tor ---------- (tor mathai sit asey) bolbonato ki bolbo? I mean jara bangladesher baire theke ei dhoroner chinta kore, ami tader kotha boltesi
Nobel, I understand your point but did Sylheti people complain or did they officially ask for independence? How can anyone without a reason open a thread and rest start writing against a community without strong reasons? Even if few Sylhetis do talk between themselves this does not reflect the view of Sylheti people.
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I would request the admin to close this thread.



Nobel, I understand your point but did Sylheti people complain or did they officially ask for independence? How can anyone without a reason open a thread and rest start writing against a community without strong reasons? Even if few Sylhetis do talk between themselves this does not reflect the view of Sylheti people.
Masoom, no offence mate, but you do write on stuffs without looking and make it look as if the other person is doing absolutely wrong things. Before you post things like that read the first post and see Why I opened the thread stating what comments.

Its not a hard talk thread yet, cause we are talking about the fact that some people do want it that way and the talks are whirling in the air. My thought was simple, I heard it and thought why not see what people say about it. Or is my english so hard to understand?

In case you missed it........I repeat my question again...


Is it true? If it is then...

Now my question is how many of you support this? Justify your thoughts on this. Is it right? Is it wrong? Why or why not they should be separate?


Read the thread name....it says with a Question mark.....


Sylhet...another independence scene?



And close the thread? Why is it that when people start saying the truth and their views on something you guys always tend to shout out...oh stop this and that?
I live in a world beyond your world....

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sylhetider alada horof ache, alada byakoron ache . age jantam na to!
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