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At least 1,500 people, most of them civilians, have been killed in heavy fighting between Russia and one of its former Soviet satellites.

With the eyes of the world on the Olympics, a day of drama and bloodshed left Moscow on the the brink of all-out war with U.S.-backed Georgia.

Overnight, two Russian planes were shot down and more civilians were killed during fighting in Georgia's breakaway province of South Ossetia.
Russian officials today said its forces had taken the South Ossetian capital and that 30,000 refugees have fled to Russia during the last 36 hours.




Stirke: Soldiers run near a blazing block after an overnight bombardment in Gori
Fighter jets carried out up to five raids on mostly military targets around the Georgian town of Gori - close to the conflict zone in South Ossetia - but at least one bomb is thought to have hit an apartment killing five civilians, according to reports.
Georgia has claimed to have shot down 10 Russian planes, but a press conference today was the first admission from Moscow that any of its planes had been downed.
Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili, who declared a state of martial law last night, called on the U.S. to help, declaring: 'Russia is fighting a war with us in our own territory'.


Devastation: A Georgian tank burns after fierce fighting




Build up: A column of Russian armoured vehicles head towards South Ossetia

The clashes came in the tiny disputed province of South Ossetia, which broke away from Georgia in the early 1990s.

Georgia has about 2,000 troops in Iraq, making it the third-largest contributor to coalition forces after the U.S. and Britain.

But Saakashvilihas said the troops would be called home in the face of the South Ossetia fighting.

Its capital, Tskhinvali, was said to have been 'almost destroyed' in onslaughts by both sides. Bodies lay in the streets and hospitals were overwhelmed with wounded.
With fierce fighting still raging last night, there was grave concern that the conflict could escalate into a major international crisis.

Most of the 70,000 South Ossetians hold Russian passports and are allied to Moscow, while Georgia is an ally of the U.S. and has applied to join Nato.
In Beijing, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin was seen to approach President Bush in the Olympic stadium where they were attending the opening ceremony.




South Ossetia residents look out from the window of a vehicle as they are evacuated




Casualties: People examine a list of wounded

Soon afterwards the U.S., Nato and the EU called for an immediate end to the fighting and the U.N. Security Council convened a tense emergency session for the second time last night to prevent an all-out war.
Condoleezza Rice, the U.S. secretary of state, called on Russia to withdraw its combat troops.
'We call on Russia to cease attacks on Georgia by aircraft and missiles, respect Georgia's territorial integrity, and withdraw its ground combat forces from Georgian soil,' she said.

Georgian troops had attacked before dawn, claiming that Ossetian separatists had broken a ceasefire.

Within hours, a column of more than 150 Russian tanks rolled into the breakaway province, which is no bigger than Norfolk.
The Kremlin already had 'peacekeeping' troops there. By evening, Russian and Georgian forces were in direct combat around Tskhinvali.
Amid reported heavy loss of life and claims of 'ethnic cleansing' , Georgia ordered a full mobilisation of its 26,000-strong armed forces. Some 2,000 troops are being pulled out of Iraq.



Georgia's President Mikheil Saakashvili speaking to a patient as he visits a military hospital in the town of Gori yesterday

Refugees told of devastation in the capital.

'I saw bodies lying on the streets, around ruined buildings, in cars,' said Lyudmila Ostayeva, 50, who fled with her family to a village near the border with Russia.
'There are so many it's impossible to count them now. There is hardly a single building left undamaged.'
The city's main hospital was among the buildings hit by Georgian shelling, said the Russian news agency Interfax, and was unable to cope with the number of wounded people.

Elements of the Russian 58th Army were reported to be in control of some districts, with Georgian forces holding others.
Georgian television showed footage of Georgian soldiers firing machine guns and driving armoured personnel carriers through the deserted streets.
Shell holes pierced the grey concrete apartment blocks and plumes of smoke hung over the city.
Other footage showed Georgian soldiers sprinting through undergrowth and diving for cover as a Russian plane dropped bombs.






Russia described the operation as 'retaliatory' after a number of its 'peacekeepers' were killed.

But President Saakashvili said it was a long-planned 'declaration of war'.
He said the conflict 'is not about Georgia anymore. It's about America, its values.
'I thought that America stands up for those freedom-loving nations and supports them. That's what America is all about. That's why we look with hope at every American.'
Saakashvili said Russia had been massing troops on the border for months.

He said: 'They have been calling it training exercises, but they have not been concealing the fact that they are training these troops for use inside Georgia.
'The way the escalation went was we came first under extensive artillery barrage from the separatists... but in the end I was told that Russian armoured vehicles started to cross the Georgian border. And that was exactly the moment when I had to take this decision to fire back.'


Welcome: A man greets Georgian troops moving into Tskhinvali



Strike: Georgian shells are fired at separatist rebels in South Ossetia yesterday
He accused Moscow of timing the attack to coincide with the Olympics.
He said: 'Most decision makers have gone for the holidays... Brilliant moment to attack a small country.'
Though South Ossetia is small, it is part of a tinderbox region with vital importance to world energy supplies.

'Total mobilisation': Georgia's President Mikhail Saakashvili ordered all men to go to recruitment centres
Last night It was reported that hundreds of volunteer fighters from Georgia's other breakaway province, were heading to join the fighting. Other volunteers were said to be arriving from North Ossetia.
Georgia claimed to have shot down four Russian fighter jets, and said Russian planes bombed three air bases inside Georgia and a numberof towns and villages - including the birthplace of Josef Stalin. Moscow denied the reports.
Last night South Ossetian separatist leader Eduard Kokoity claimed about 1,500 people had died as a result of 'Georgian aggression'.
He said: 'We have this on the basis of reports from relatives'.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov accused the Georgians of ethnic cleansing in villages in South Ossetia.

He added: 'The number of refugees is climbing, the panic is growing, people are trying to save their lives.'




Georgian policemen evacuate a Georgian soldier, wounded in battle
Russian military sources said their peacekeepers were waging a 'fierce' battle with Georgian forces and had suffered 12 dead and 150 wounded.
In his first diplomatic crisis since he took office, Russian president Dmitry Medvedev warned: 'I, as president of Russia, am obliged to protect the lives and dignity of Russian citizens wherever they are located.
'We won't allow the death of our compatriots go unpunished.'
But Georgian prime minister Lado Gurgenidze said Georgia had simply run out of patience with cross-border attacks by separatist militias in recent days and had had to move in to restore peace in South Ossetia.



Ossetian women and children escaping from South Ossetian capital Tskhinvali under the heavy fire of Georgian army
Georgia accuses Russia of arming the separatists, but Moscow denies the claim.
Nato said it was seriously concerned, while German Chancellor Angela Merkel called on all sides to show restraint.

The European security organisation, the OSCE, warned that the fighting risked escalating into full-scale war.

Georgian Ambassador Irakli Alasania said Russia had embarked on 'a full-scale military invasion' of his nation.

'Russia is openly challenging the international community,' he said, detailing a list of Russian bombings and troop movements.


'The Russian agression is aimed to subdue Georgia.'



Russian Ambassador Vitaly Churkin said his country's forces were peacemaking in an area that had by subjected to a "scorched earth" policy by Georgian aggression.

'This cannot be described as anything but a gross violation of international laws,' he said.
Most of Georgia's military hardware comes from former Warsaw Pact countries, and is outdated compared to the Russian army's equipment. its air force is also predominantly equipped with Russian-made aircraft.


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Default Posted August 9th, 2008, 08:31 PM #2 (permalink) |
ohh man not again no more war plz..mone hoi keyamot smanei asche joldi bie ta saire feli lolz. thank you Eros vi.
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Default Posted August 13th, 2008, 01:09 AM #3 (permalink) |
eta niye paper sedin porlam... kintu akhon to ar kono update dekchi na paper e? ... keu ki kono protest korche na?
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Vor try to get updates from web news sites (msnbc.com, cnn.com bbc.co.uk). And who gonna protest about it ? UN ? It's just a formal organization, nothing else. USA & their western allies protesting about this war, when they are already involve in multiple wars in many countries.


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A convoy of Russian troops makes its way through the Caucasus Mountains toward the armed conflict between Georgian troops and separatist South Ossetian troops, in the South Ossetian village of Dzhaba on August 9, 2008. Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili declared a "state of war" as his troops battled it out with Russian forces over the breakaway province of South Ossetia. (Dmitry Kostyukov/AFP)


Last month, separatist authorities in the Georgian breakaway region of South Ossetia arrested four Georgian soldiers in Tskhinvali on July 8, 2008. South Ossetian authorities said they had arrested the soldiers amid heightened tensions in the mountainous province. The soldiers were later released. (KAZBEK BASAYEV/AFP/Getty Images)


A soldier of Georgian peacekeeping forces in South Ossetia and a police officer look at what they say is a shell hole caused by gunfire from South Ossetian separatist government forces in the ethnic Georgian village of Nikozi, on Tuesday, Aug. 5, 2008. Six people died in fighting that broke out late Friday and early Saturday, including sniper and mortar fire between South Ossetian and Georgian forces. (AP Photo/George Abdaladze)


A refugee girl from the Georgian region of South Ossetia sits on a bed after her arrival to Russian territory in Vladikavkaz, the capital of Russian North Ossetia early on August 4, 2008. Refugees have been leaving South Ossetia for days now, anticipating possible heavy conflict. (KAZBEK BASAYEV/AFP)


Russian troops stand on a tank near a herd of cows during their journey through the mountains toward the armed conflict between Georgian troops and separatist South Ossetian troops, in the South Ossetian village of Dzhaba on August 9, 2008. (Dmitry Kostyukov/AFP)


A convoy of Russian troops makes its way through the mountains toward the armed conflict between Georgian troops and separatist South Ossetian troops in the South Ossetian village of Dzhaba on August 9, 2008. (Dmitry Kostyukov/AFP)


Georgian soldiers walk in Gori, central Georgia, on August 9, 2008. Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili declared a "state of war" on August 9 as his troops battled it out with Russian forces over the breakaway province of South Ossetia. Earlier, Russian warplanes bombed the Georgian city of Gori, killing civilians, Georgia's Public TV reported. (DIMITAR DILKOFF/AFP)


A Russian fighter jet fires on a Georgian position near Tskhinvali on August 8, 2008. Georgia has lost control of parts of the South Ossetian rebel capital of Tskhinvali amid Russian bombardment, a spokesman for Georgia's interior ministry said, after earlier claiming control of the city. (VANO SHLAMOV/AFP/Getty Images)


A Russian military helicopter flies over a main road connecting South Ossetia's main city of Tskhinvali with the Georgian town of Gori on August 10, 2008. As helicopter gunships hovered over Georgia's breakaway province of South Ossetia, newly occupied by Russian forces, a stream of refugees fled the area, testifying to days of heavy bombardment. (DIMITAR DILKOFF/AFP/Getty Images)


An unidentified fighter jet drops munitions near the Georgian town of Gori, on Friday, Aug. 8, 2008. (AP Photo/George Abdaladze)


A wounded Georgian woman lies in front of an apartment building, damaged by a Russian airstrike, in the northern Georgian town of Gori, on Saturday, Aug. 9, 2008. According to photographer the wounded woman was later helped by her neighbors and evacuated her to a safe area. Russia sent hundreds of tanks and troops into the separatist province of South Ossetia and bombed Georgian towns Saturday in a major escalation of the conflict that has left scores of civilians dead and wounded. (AP Photo/George Abdaladze)


Georgian soldiers pass by a building hit by bombardments in Gori on August 9, 2008. (DIMITAR DILKOFF/AFP)


Georgian troops fire rockets at seperatist South Ossetian troops from an unnamed location not far from Tskhinvali on August 8, 2008. Georgia is taking measures to prevent Russian "mercenaries" from infiltrating the country, its prime minister said as Georgian forces attacked the Russian-backed breakaway province of South Ossetia. (VANO SHLAMOV/AFP)


A man carries a boy, who was injured in South Ossetian province capital Tskhinvali and evacuated in the town of Dzhava, South Ossetia, Saturday, Aug. 9, 2008. Georgia, a U.S. ally whose troops have been trained by American soldiers, launched a major offensive overnight Friday to retake control of it's breakaway province. (AP Photo/Musa Sadulayev)


Georgian villagers evacuate near the city of Tskhinvali, in the breakaway Georgian province South Ossetia, Friday, Aug. 8, 2008. (AP Photo/George Abdaladze)


Residents of Dzuarikau throw gifts of food, drink and cigarettes to Russian soldiers in armoured personnel carriers on their way to the South Ossetia conflict zone on August 9, 2008. (KAZBEK BASAYEV/AFP/Getty Images)



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President of the breakaway South Ossetia region, Eduard Kokoity stands near Russian tanks and troops in the South Ossetian town of Dzhava on August 9, 2008. (Dmitry Kostyukov/AFP)


A man looks at unidentified men killed fighting for the South Ossetian side in the conflict in the town of Dzhava, South Ossetia on August 9, 2008. Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said "dozens" of people had been killed in Georgian attacks on South Ossetia, contradicting a claim by Moscow's separatist allies of 1,500 dead. (Dmitry Kostyukov/AFP PHOTO)


A South Ossetian soldier gets aboard of his APC in the village of Dzhava early on August 10, 2008. (Dmitry Kostyukov/AFP/Getty Images)


A South Ossetian doctor stands next to a wounded man in the basement of a destroyed hospital in Tskhinvali on August 10, 2008. (Dmitry Kostyukov/AFP/Getty Images)


People hold candles during a protest front of the Georgian embassy in Moscow August 10, 2008. French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner flew to Tbilisi on Sunday on an EU mission to mediate an end to the conflict in Georgia's rebel South Ossetia region, which was under Russian control after Georgian forces retreated. (REUTERS/Sergei Karpukhin)


A car passes as fire engulfs the woods near the Georgian town of Gori, just outside the breakaway province of South Ossetia, Sunday, Aug. 10, 2008. Georgian troops retreated from South Ossetia on Sunday and their government pressed for a truce, overwhelmed by Russian firepower as the conflict threatened to set off a wider war. (AP Photo/Sergei Grits)


A Georgian man rides a three-wheeled vehicle as he flees in South Ossetia near the village of Troiavi on August 10, 2008. Russian troops are heading towards the Georgian town of Gori, which Georgian forces are positioned to defend, Georgia's national security council chief Alexander Lomaia said Sunday. (DIMITAR DILKOFF/AFP)


Russian troops launch rockets in the Ardon Valley, Russia, near the Georgian border, Saturday, Aug. 9, 2008. It was not clear what the target or targets may have been. (AP Photo/Musa Sadulayev)


A Georgian soldier lays dead on a street, after earlier fighting on outskirts of Tskhinvali on August 10, 2008. (Dmitry Kostyukov/AFP/Getty Images)


Georgian policemen evacuate a Georgian soldier wounded in battle with South Ossetian separatists, in the town of Gori on August 8, 2008. Russia's defence ministry said that more than 10 of its troops deployed as peacekeepers in South Ossetia have been killed amid a Georgian offensive in the breakaway region, Russian news agencies reported. (VANO SHLAMOV/AFP/Getty Images)


Russian military transport planes land in Sukhumi airport in Sukhumi, Georgia, Sunday, Aug. 10, 2008. More Russian troops arrived in the capital of Georgia's breakaway province of Abkhazia in addition to peacekeepers deployed there for more than a decade, heading toward the border with Georgia. In a potential widening of the conflict in nearby South Ossetia, separatist authorities in Abkhazia have mobilized the army and called up reservists to drive Georgian government forces from a small part of the province still under Georgian control. (AP Photo/Vladimir Popov)


Bodyguards escort Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili, center, to shelter under a threat of Russian air attack in Gori, Georgia, Monday, Aug. 11, 2008. (AP Photo/Sergei Grits)


An unidentified crying Georgian woman is calmed by her husband after finding out that her child was killed in a neighboring village, in Gori, about 80 km (50 miles) from Tbilisi, August 11, 2008. (REUTERS/Gleb Garanich) (edit, added reason for grief)
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Default Posted August 13th, 2008, 09:39 AM #6 (permalink) |
boro country hote gele emni korei onyo choto country r byaapare nak goliye juddo tuddho korte hoy. chirokal tai dekhe esechi. Russia fer boro country hote chaiche kina, tai ekhon esob hobei or ashe pashee....
r sadharon manush to jonmay morar janyoiiii...sob kichutei, sobar age soft target taraiiii...
er majhe ekta information besh mojar...Georgia r nijer ek gada military Iraq e rayechee...mane sei, onyo ke kathi dewar sujog pele keu i chare na...US hok, Russia hok, emon ki Georgia o hok
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